RUSHES: Frederick Dempsey and Hoothra Moodley give evidence at Truth and Reconciliation Commission (Part 5)

Frederick Dempsey and Hoothra Moodley give evidence at Truth and Reconciliation Commission (Part 5); SOUTH AFRICA: Johannesburg: INTTruth and Reconciliation Commission SOT (part 25 of 28):ARCHBISHOP DESMOND TUTU (CHAIRPERSON): Thank you very much. I thought you people had had your bite. Anyone here? Maybe I should start on this side, yes. Yasmin.MS YASMIN SOOKA: Mr Frederick Hendrik Dempsey did you know that Temba Mbatha, rather I should ...(tape ends) was an askari?MR FREDERICK HENDRIK DEMPSEY: I saw this in his statement which he made and where he mentioned that he was an askari. That was the first time that I saw this.MS YASMIN SOOKA: Why was he handed over to Jan Potgieter?MR FREDERICK HENDRIK DEMPSEY: I did not handle him at all. He was already in detention with the security police and I myself and the advocate for the prosecution went to see him in detention. He was not at all handed over from one person to another by me.MS YASMIN SOOKA: If I am not mistaken and our investigation unit will correct me, it was after you handed Mbatha over to Jan Potgieter that he was handed over to Eugene de Kock for ....MR PIERS PIGOU: Chair if I could just come in here, our understanding from the information presented to us by Mr Potgieter and Mr de Kock is that a request was made by Mr Frederick Hendrik Dempsey to pick up Mr Mbatha that the security branch did the picking up and they did the interrogating, they did the handing over, there is no indication in the information provided by Jan Potgieter that Supt Frederick Hendrik Dempsey was involved in that process at all.MS YASMIN SOOKA: Thanks. Why did you never bother to find out after you made this request about what had happened to Temba Mbatha?MR FREDERICK HENDRIK DEMPSEY: After the prosecuting advocate had decided to lead his testimony it was irrelevant to me we were not going to use him so why would I have anything to do with him further.MS YASMIN SOOKA: Do you have the sta...
Frederick Dempsey and Hoothra Moodley give evidence at Truth and Reconciliation Commission (Part 5); SOUTH AFRICA: Johannesburg: INTTruth and Reconciliation Commission SOT (part 25 of 28):ARCHBISHOP DESMOND TUTU (CHAIRPERSON): Thank you very much. I thought you people had had your bite. Anyone here? Maybe I should start on this side, yes. Yasmin.MS YASMIN SOOKA: Mr Frederick Hendrik Dempsey did you know that Temba Mbatha, rather I should ...(tape ends) was an askari?MR FREDERICK HENDRIK DEMPSEY: I saw this in his statement which he made and where he mentioned that he was an askari. That was the first time that I saw this.MS YASMIN SOOKA: Why was he handed over to Jan Potgieter?MR FREDERICK HENDRIK DEMPSEY: I did not handle him at all. He was already in detention with the security police and I myself and the advocate for the prosecution went to see him in detention. He was not at all handed over from one person to another by me.MS YASMIN SOOKA: If I am not mistaken and our investigation unit will correct me, it was after you handed Mbatha over to Jan Potgieter that he was handed over to Eugene de Kock for ....MR PIERS PIGOU: Chair if I could just come in here, our understanding from the information presented to us by Mr Potgieter and Mr de Kock is that a request was made by Mr Frederick Hendrik Dempsey to pick up Mr Mbatha that the security branch did the picking up and they did the interrogating, they did the handing over, there is no indication in the information provided by Jan Potgieter that Supt Frederick Hendrik Dempsey was involved in that process at all.MS YASMIN SOOKA: Thanks. Why did you never bother to find out after you made this request about what had happened to Temba Mbatha?MR FREDERICK HENDRIK DEMPSEY: After the prosecuting advocate had decided to lead his testimony it was irrelevant to me we were not going to use him so why would I have anything to do with him further.MS YASMIN SOOKA: Do you have the sta...
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